Thread:Comrade Raining/@comment-44008219-20200207164008/@comment-38073745-20200208043748

I disagree with his stupid jokes relating tragic events. But I think he is right about third world countries being currently the only ones with revolutionary potential, I don’t think any first world nation can be currently really revolutionary. I don’t share his view that first world people are not part of the world proletarian, I do think they are, but they are certainly in a privileged position compared to third world proletarians. They are exploited, but they benefit from other exploitation even more, therefore they can be easily fooled with social democratic reforms.

Thailand and Greece are not exactly first world countries, they are what I would call the modern second world. The objective material conditions during the end of the WW2 and beginning of the Cold War were different from today. That time a revolution in Greece, Germany and even in France could be possible due to the quick hardening of class struggle in Europe, that was only blockade by the Marshall plan and the social democrat offensive against revolutionary socialism in order to defend the vestiges of old capitalism.

I’m born in Singapore, I lived 20 years of my life there, I worked for a company that didn’t guarantee me health insurance or any type of coverage if I got sick or involved at some work accident. For me and my family there it would be easier to go for medical treatment in another country because of the high costs, income inequality is a reality there. So was I being exploited there? Of course, that’s capitalist nature, they were sucking the hell off my labor force without giving me proper rights in order to obtain the surplus value.

But the point is, this is nothing compared to the conditions of proletarians in third world country. I still had a house, didn’t really have to worry about going homeless and didn’t struggle to buy food. Singapore doesn’t have any revolutionary potential currently. As Marxists we need through dialectical materialism to keep in mind that the objective material conditions are the key thing in making an accurate analysis of the current political moment we living in.

And I don’t think he hates people from the first world simply for being people from the first world, because that’s not a thing you can choose, himself is from a first world country (Canada). There’s a lot of criticism that can be done about people in the first world being alienated because of their media and governments, but hating the people themselves is not right.

Also, I particularly agree with him on that, people in the first world live from the suffering of the ones in the third world. As I said I don’t think the first world has any revolutionary potential. Capitalism is a one way system, the great and beautiful social democracy that center left liberals like Bernie Sanders love to exalt is only possible thanks to the exploitation of third world nations. For example, France gets every year solid billions from the neo colonial ruins of their former African colonies, it’s with this money that the EU grew, the UK has similar policies as well.

Now since the fall of the USSR, the Eastern European countries have becoming a new source of exploitation for the EU led bloc. Just compare their standards with the ones of Western Europe, they are the new second world that in current geopolitical terms I would define as “too benefited to be a pure exploited nation but too exploited to be a benefited nation”. High debts, austerity, internal crisis plus the immigration issues and the rise of neo fascism. We must always remember that in capitalism for someone win, another one needs to lose, and this is just in Europe, one of the most benefited regions by the capitalist axis.